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AliExpress Sucks !

AliExpress Scammers #1

AliExpress Scammers #2

AliExpress Scammers #3

STAY AWAY FROM ALI-EXPRESS!

You WILL be scammed. I guarantee it.

Long ago the deals on AliExpress were possibly worth taking a chance.
Now the prices are pretty close to, or sometimes exceeding, normal USA prices.
AliExpress is a complete and total write-off. The odds of being scammed now (2019) are close to 100%

Dishonest, Scammy, Greedy Sellers on AliExpress:

GIHOO Balloons Store
PAPYBAL Official Store

 

GIHOO Balloons Store

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We ordered balloons for an orphanage from the AliExpress seller shown above. The balloons were never shipped. We then cancelled the order and ordered the balloons from another vendor. Those balloons showed up without a problem, and we held the event and used the balloons. But the seller below STILL refused to cancel the order. The order was never shipped. The order was never even processed! But now, about a week and a half AFTER we first requested to cancel the order, the seller continues to refuse to cancel, or ship, or even process the order! They simply took the money and stopped everything.

GIHOO Balloons store refused to ship the order.
GIHOO Balloons refused to cancel the order.
GIHOO Balloons refused to refund for the order.
That makes GIHOO Balloons thieves and scammers.

This is a dishonest business. Stay away from GIHOO Balloons, but more importantly, stay away from AliExpress. Their sellers are mostly of this type. I dealt with AliExpress for nearly 19 years. In the old days I got screwed about 20% of the time. Now, as of 2019, I get screwed 70-90% of the time. AliExpress is a company made up of dishonest, lying, scamming sellers. I have now filed a dispute with my American VISA Card to remove these funds from AliExpress. AliExpress will not pay these sellers. If you enjoy doing business with sellers of this low quality, then by all means, buy from AliExpress. But if you want honest, straightforward, normal buying interactions, run as fast as you can from AliExpress. I guarantee, they will screw you over.

Business Information

Please see business information of the merchant below:

  • Business License/Information
公司名称 :
芜湖市派格电子商务有限公司
统一社会信用代码 :
91340200MA2Q3Y4F19
营业执照注册号 :
340200000357846
注册地址 :
芜湖市弋江区芜湖金鹰世界中心写字楼12层1203
法定代表人 :
谢贤能
经营范围 :

网上销售玩具、婚庆用品、日用百货、家居用品,自营和代理各类商品及技术的进出口业务(国

家限定公司经营或禁止进出口的商品和技术除外)。(依法

须经批准的项目,经相关部门批准后方可开展经营活动)

成立时间 :
2017-10-27
登记机关 :
安徽省芜湖市工商行政管理局
All information above are from self-declaration of merchants and AliExpress does not guarantee its authenticity or accuracy.

Merchants shall represent and warrant that all declared business information is full, accurate and true, otherwise may face penalty of AliExpress and/or law enforcement department.

 

 

 

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PAPYBAL Official Store


We ordered balloons for an orphanage from the AliExpress seller shown above. The balloons were never shipped. We then cancelled the order and ordered the balloons from another vendor. Those balloons showed up without a problem, and we held the event and used the balloons. But the seller below STILL refused to cancel the order. But now, about a week and a half AFTER we first requested to cancel the order, the seller continues to refuse to cancel, or ship, or even process the order! They simply took the money and stopped everything.

PAPYBAL Official Store refused to ship the order.
PAPYBAL Official Store refused to cancel the order.
PAPYBAL Official Store refused to refund for the order.
That makes PAPYBAL Official Store thieves and scammers.

This is a dishonest business. Stay away from PAPYBAL Official Store, but more importantly, stay away from AliExpress. Their sellers are mostly of this type. I dealt with AliExpress for nearly 19 years. In the old days I got screwed about 20% of the time. Now, as of 2019, I get screwed 70-90% of the time. AliExpress is a company made up of dishonest, lying, scamming sellers. I have now filed a dispute with my American VISA Card to remove these funds from AliExpress. AliExpress will not pay these sellers. If you enjoy doing business with sellers of this low quality, then by all means, buy from AliExpress. But if you want honest, straightforward, normal buying interactions, run as fast as you can from AliExpress. I guarantee, they will screw you over.

Business Information

Please see business information of the merchant below:

  • Business License/Information
公司名称 :
义乌市日熙贸易有限公司
统一社会信用代码 :
91330782MA28QBHM8D
营业执照注册号 :
330782000908031
注册地址 :
浙江省义乌市后宅街道北站四区111幢3单元201室(自主申报)
法定代表人 :
傅旦磊
经营范围 :

实物现场批发、网上销售:家居日用品、喜庆日用品、玩具、日用百货、婚庆日用品。(依法

须经批准的项目,经相关部门批准后方可开展经营活动)

成立时间 :
2017-03-22
登记机关 :
义乌市市场监督管理局
All information above are from self-declaration of merchants and AliExpress does not guarantee its authenticity or accuracy.

Merchants shall represent and warrant that all declared business information is full, accurate and true, otherwise may face penalty of AliExpress and/or law enforcement department.

 

 

 

VISA Credit card chargeback cover letter:

TO:

BECU / VISA 442868050---------

Re two disputes on my VISA card ending xxxx (see enclosed BECU dispute forms)

GIHOO BALLOONS
PAPYBAL Balloons

These are two orders for balloons through AliExpress, a Chinese online retailer. These were balloons to be used for an orphanage here in Thailand.

I had had horrible, miserable experiences with AliExpress going back years (decades) but I was too stupid to learn. Now I have finally learned.
Before I ordered, I emailed the companies and told them that I had extreme, extreme trepidation about ordering through Alibaba (AliExpress), and that I wanted their assurances that they were decent, honest sellers and would ship promptly and not screw me over. They said yes, they would do a good job for me.

I then ordered.

I then waited.

But the orders were never even processed.

This is typical AliExpress. The sellers simply don't ship, and then hope to frustrate the buyer through the dispute process, thereby keeping the money. You can Google thousands of websites describing this exact behavior and a million other scams by AliExpress. I have lived, worked and shopped literally around the world. There is no worse seller on this planet than AliExpress and Alibaba. There are no worse sellers by a huge margin.

I then began asking for cancellations. These sellers ignored me. I then became angry and demanded cancellations. The sellers rudely, flatly refused, and still made no effort to process or ship or refund.

I then ordered the balloons from another seller here in Thailand. They arrived quickly; we held our event, and all was well.

I then went back to demanding a cancellation from the Chinese sellers. They continued to flatly refuse. I then threatened them with a website dedicated to them and this experience. One of the sellers then immediately cancelled the order, but that left two, the two named in this dispute, who again refused to cancel. They wouldn't process or ship - but they refused to cancel or refund. I then created a web page detailing my experiences with them at this link:

http://www.truth-or-consequences.com/badder_business_bureau/aliexpress_sucks/index.shtml

I repeatedly showed this web page to these two businesses, and they continued to refuse to cancel my orders, essentially flipping me off.
I then prepared these two disputes. I will cancel and deactivate my AliExpress account once this miserable mess is resolved. I will never buy from Chinese people again.

Copies to: AliExpress Corporate Headquarters

Alibaba (China) Co., Ltd:

969 West Wen Yi Road
Yu Hang District
Hangzhou 311121
China
Tel: (+86) 571-8502-2088
Fax: (+86) 571-8526-9066

2-10-2019

 

Other Alibaba Group Offices

Hangzhou Binjiang Campus:

699 Wang Shang Road
Binjiang District
Hangzhou 310052
China
Tel: (+86) 571-8502-2088
Fax: (+86) 571-8981-5505

Hong Kong Office:

c/o Alibaba Group Services Limited
26/F Tower One, Times Square
1 Matheson Street, Causeway Bay
Hong Kong
Tel: (+852) 2215-5100
Fax: (+852) 2215-5200

Taipei City Office:

11/F, No. 188, Sec. 5
Nanjing E. Road, Songshan District
Taipei City 10571
Taiwan
Tel: (+886) 2-6602-9888
Fax: (+886) 2-6600-8818

U.S. Office:

400 South El Camino Real
Suite 400
San Mateo, CA 94402
United States
Tel: (+1) 1-408-785-5580
Fax: (+1) 1-408-748-1218

U.K. Office (U.K., Ireland and Nordics):

5 Southampton Street
London WC2E 7HA
United Kingdom

Italy Office (Italy, Spain, Portugal and Greece):

Corso Europa, 13
20122 Milan
Italy

France Office (France, Israel, Middle East and North Africa regions):

124 rue de Réaumur
75002 Paris
France

Germany Office (Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Turkey and Eastern Europe):

1st Floor, Viktualienmarkt 8
80331 Munich
Germany

The Netherlands Office (The Netherlands, Belgium and Luxembourg):

Herengracht 450
Amsterdam, 1017 CA
The Netherlands

Japan Office:

27F Kyobashi Edogrand
2-2-1 Kyobashi, Chuo-ku
Tokyo 1040031
Japan

India Office:

Unit No. 101A,
1st Floor, Platina Building,
Plot No. C-59, G Block,
Bandra Kurla Complex,
Bandra East,
Mumbai 400051, India
Tel: (+91) 22-4233-5233

Australia and New Zealand Office:

Level 2, 411 Collins Street,
Melbourne, Victoria,
Australia

Ant Financial Headquarters

Z Space
No. 556 Xixi Road
Hangzhou, China
Tel: (+86) 571-2688-8888
Fax: (+86) 571-8643-2811

 


FINAL (Maybe!) UPDATE, February 17, 2018:

We have recovered ALL money paid to these AliExpress vendors -- not because they voluntarily refunded it, but we filed disputes (chargebacks) through our VISA card. After the vendors saw that they weren't going to ever be paid, they cancelled the orders. They did that so that we were prevented from filing complaints against them through the AliExpress complaints interface.

We tried to cancel our AliExpress account, but there is one shipment, ordered nearly two months ago, that has gone missing from the vendor. Good ol' AliExpress strikes again. It just never ends with these pieces of Goddamned shit. Since the item is missing, and the order is not yet closed, AliExpress prevented us from deleting our account. We must wait for some period of time before they will allow that. We will be required to file a dispute for the missing item, wait the usual two months for it to run its course, then another month for the refund -- which will never come, and only then will we be allowed (allowed!) to cancel our account. --Problem is, VISA only allows chargebacks to be filed within 60 days of the chaege being made to the card. So, here we go again-- we will have to file a chargeback on this amount also, and get the money back, and then let the dispute to AliExpress run its course before we can finally get rid of these miserable sons of fucking bitches. No retailer on this earth is this bad. Trust us; that's a fact.

I don't anticipate updating this page further. We know what we have to do. We're positive we can get the money back. And eventually we'll get disconnected from the AliExpress scammy tentacles. If any of that does NOT occur, we'll come back and update here.

Are you "getting" this yet? Get away and stay away from these people. If you don't, you WILL get scammed. I positively guarantee it. Read more about AliExpress scams through the links below. After that, I see now that there are well over a million websites reporting AliExpress scams. Is that enough for you?

This page demonstrates what very often happens when you try to order balloons (or anything else) through AliExpress.
You will encounter nothing but chaos, dishonesty, scams, lies, and theft.

AliExpress Scammers #1

AliExpress Scammers #2

AliExpress Scammers #3